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PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by Fated Xtasy on Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:46 pm

In this thread i will be listing the top jedi that i believe could Take down the good general(aside from the obvious choices, Yoda, Mace, Obi-wan, Anakin etc etc)

Ki Adi Mundi: This shouldn't come off as a surprise, this guy kept up with grevious despite being exhausted and with a form that TIRES the user out if they part in a prolonged duel, the fact that Ki-adi was able to last the longest against Grevious despite having the odds stacked against him, shows that if the Cerean Jedi master were in good shape, he could take down the good general.

Shaak Ti: A master swordsmen praised by the SW universe and revered by the order as one of their most cunning warriors and a master of legendary strength in the force. Again like with Ki-Adi, she was also exhausted because of her battle against the droids and like him also had the odds stacked against her, She was able to keep up with Grevious for a short time and later after fully recovering, she took on an army of Magna-guards alone. I am sure that This incarnation of Shaak Ti would either win or lose to grevious, it could go either way, but TFU shaak Ti is a whole nother story.

Who else do i have that could beat Grevious? these are the only two that i say beat grevious, correct me if am wrong i guess


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Re: PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by Wildbantha88 on Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:50 pm

Do people from TPM count because if so, ima go out on a limb and say possibly Jinn
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Re: PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by King Joker on Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:26 pm

Fisto, too.

Maybe Koon.
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Re: PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by Emperordmb on Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:36 pm

Just a quick rundown on Grievous first. First of all I am going to be considering Grievous at his peak, which is LOE/ROTS (Post Season 5 of TCW). This means that I will look at the level he was at at his peak, rather than using his lower end feats earlier on to establish a limit for the General. At his peak, Grievous was known to strike 20 times per second, defensively has held off Windu, offensively has overwhelmed Obi-wan's defenses, and is not plagued by the overwhelming hubris of his TCW self.

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Mundi faced Grievous before Grievous's prime, and his defeat at Grievous's hands while tired is not necessarily indicative that he would best Grievous were he in better shape. Mundi also regaled the Jedi council with wild tales of the General's prowess, so obviously it had him very impressed. Mundi also had a somewhat even fight with Ventress, whom I consider to be inferior to peak Grievous.

Shaak Ti as of ROTS doesn't necessarily impress me enough to prove she'd take Grievous for a majority. Again, Mundi's dialogue with the council where he marvels at Grievous's ability, even while acknowledging the fact that they were exhausted, still suggests Grievous was the greatest combatant on Hypori. So yeah, don't think ROTS Shaak Ti could take Grievous for a majority, TFU is likely a different story though.

Fisto has also been suggested, likely due to his fight with Grievous in season 1. There are however numerous factors at play here. Grievous was not in his prime in Season 1 first of all. He was not in the best physical condition at that moment, being noted to "need his rest" at that point by his medical droid. His hubris led to the loss of one of his arms rather early on in the fight, reducing his striking speed by 25%, and unlike his fight with Obi-wan in ROTS, he never even brought his full striking speed to bare on Fisto before losing one of his arms. Another point to bring up is that Grievous's arms were upgraded after Season 5, so it's likely his arms weren't capable of as great a striking speed in Season 1 as they were at his prime. And even with those disadvantages and not being at his peak, Fisto's advantage in that fight, while noticeable, wasn't a particularly strong one as far as fights go. Fisto simply wouldn't take Grievous at his prime for a majority.

Plo Koon is an interesting one. Koon's skills impress me the most out of all the ROTS Jedi who aren't the big four. He bested Ventress in a lightsaber duel with a broken arm, as a Form V specialist. Obviously, the practitioner of a form that is strength oriented would be at a particular disadvantage with only one arm available for usage, making his victory over Ventress all the more impressive. He also fought Savage Opress at one point. That fight ultimately ended in Plo's defeat, though it's very arguable that Plo was distracted trying to help his clones. Of course his clones were also shooting at Opress during their duel giving Plo an edge there as well. But of course that edge would be partially negated by Plo's body getting in the way of the clones' aiming, making it harder for them to take a good shot. Then of course, there's the logistics of whether or not Plo's style is necessarily well suited against Opress. Really, though Plo's fight with Opress was pretty circumstantial, it does demonstrate parity between the two. Plo Koon also has a rather interesting scope of force abilities, such as electric judgement, the ability to alter his environment, create whirlwinds, etc. Grievous is the superior duelist of the two, but Plo's wide array of force abilities could be rather useful if applied in the right way, and Plo's skills with a lightsaber should be sufficient for him to hold his own pretty well. All in all, I'm not entirely sure about this one.

So yeah, aside from the main four, I don't think any of this era's Jedi could take Grievous, except maybe Plo Koon, though Ti and Mundi would have a better shot than the other Jedi.

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Re: PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by King Joker on Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:49 pm

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Mundi also had a somewhat even fight with Ventress,


Not at all. They literally only exchanged two blows, and then a gunship started firing at Ventress and she leapt away from her fight with Mundi to attack the gunship.
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Re: PT Jedi that could beat Grevious.

Post by Emperordmb on Sat Oct 25, 2014 11:50 pm

King Joker wrote:
Emperordmb wrote:

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Mundi also had a somewhat even fight with Ventress,


Not at all. They literally only exchanged two blows, and then a gunship started firing at Ventress and she leapt away from her fight with Mundi to attack the gunship.
Okay, so he doesn't have that... still loses to Grievous for a majority...

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